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#1 Cemy<3

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:59 AM

There has been a lot of confusion about what is scamming and what is luring. Hopefully this will help clear up confusion.

LURING:
Murderer says, "Omg, I've got these freakishly amazing diamonds that I'll sell to you for only one dollar each! Tpa to me!" -noob gets killed-

During LURING, no money is handed over to the murderer. If Noob had given Murderer one dollar for the diamond, Murderer would either have to give Noob one dollar back, or the diamond he promised.

Another form of LURING is if you tpa someone to you, and they kill you. It's sort of a reverse-lure, but still is allowed.

Basically, the reason Luring is allowed is because it became much to difficult to moderate and everyone was constantly screaming about how so-so had lured them and how they lost full sets of diamond armor and blah blah blah. It became almost impossible to figure out who had really lost what. Luring is allowed.

SCAMMING:
Scammer says, "Oh heyyy, I've got this really cheap deal for you! Here, I'll give a stack of diamonds for two diamond swords!" Noob and Scammer meet up in a no pvp area (because Noob isn't really a noob), Noob tosses Scammer the two diamond swords, and then Scammer takes both the promised stack of diamonds AND the two diamonds swords home with him. This is a SCAM and it is NOT ALLOWED. Scammer must either return the two diamond swords, or fulfill his promised bargain.

Another form of a scam that is not allowed is for Scammer to set up a sign shop to sell diamonds cheap, but then having a trapdoor underneath the sign shop to kill those who buy from him. That's a scam, and it is NOT allowed.

NEW: If you sell a damaged tool to someone, tell them how damaged it is beforehand, and agree on a lower price. Do not sell damaged tools to people who are paying you for new tools.

The reason scamming is not allowed, is because there is no safe way for members to trade items, so we make scamming illegal to allow different parties to trade in a somewhat more safe way.

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Just to clarify, killing people in a no-pvp area is not allowed! That means making falling traps, placing lava, or potion pvping in a no-pvp area is a HUGE no-no.
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Please post any questions about what is, or is not allowed below.

Edited by Cemynx_, 17 June 2012 - 07:35 PM.


#2 BronyPowerr

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

Everyone please read this and learn


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#3 Shinigami

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:11 PM

Cemynx_ said:

Another form of a scam that is not allowed is for Scammer to set up a sign shop to sell diamonds cheap, but then having a trapdoor underneath the sign shop to kill those who buy from him. That's a scam, and it is NOT allowed.

Who the hell did that?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:47 PM

Shinigami said:

Who the hell did that?

deathwoefke or iluvpresident I think.

#5 deathwoefke

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:16 PM

XD i just know how it is.
Anyways is it allowed to "scam" and instead of trapping them killing them cause the area where they buyed it it's pvp?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:34 PM

deathwoefke said:

XD i just know how it is.
Anyways is it allowed to "scam" and instead of trapping them killing them cause the area where they buyed it it's pvp?

No, not allowed. If you and someone else are making a transaction of items or money, both parties must retain their promised end of the deal long enough for them to safely stow it away.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

i used to get scammed all the time :(
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:24 PM

BoobMax2442 said:

i used to get scammed all the time :(


Then I took an.....

#9 HappyChipper

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:36 PM

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Then I took an.....

Deal to the face, and i no longer got scammed.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:07 PM

all i want to say...

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 02:03 AM

Cemynx_ said:

Another form of a scam that is not allowed is for  Scammer to set up a sign shop to sell diamonds cheap, but then having a  trapdoor underneath the sign shop to kill those who buy from him. That's  a scam, and it is NOT allowed.

There actually used to be an official listed rule(dunno if its still listed) about this. "No death traps of any kind without warning before entry."

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:36 AM

Reeper_Sniper said:

There actually used to be an official listed rule(dunno if its still listed) about this. "No death traps of any kind without warning before entry."
I hope this rule will  be back up so people who won't be named *cough*NoobGamingFun*cough* will not trap people and make people mad at him. It's bad for his soul XD
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:17 AM

You really need to update your rules they're all outdated.
People don't know if they did something wrong or not.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 03:42 PM

deathwoefke said:

You really need to update your rules they're all outdated.
People don't know if they did something wrong or not.

Yeah, we know this. Rane and I have been working on putting together a cohesive and updated version of the rules, however it's been delayed due to my finals/graduation and her life in general. We'll get back to working on that ASAP and try to get it posted up both on the forums and in game.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:26 PM

we need a fresh set of rules

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

Jaylegitz said:

we need a fresh set of rules

Did you not just read the post above yours?

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:29 AM

I added a new rule to the first post.

Don't try to sell damaged items to people unless you tell them they're damaged beforehand.

It's sad that I have to say something so obvious, but it happened.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

Ranemist said:

Did you not just read the post above yours?

Yeh i know i was tryna delete my post :P

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:18 PM

Hey Cemy. I've got these freakishly amazing diamonds and I'll sell them to you for one dollar each.

They're in my van.

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#20 Cemy<3

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

Omfg, your van? 8D

I love vans! Lemme go grab my hand cream first!




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